and after you've finished The CMT you can start with this one: http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/ comes with examples for PD. m Frank Barknecht schreef: > Hallo, > Michael Wagner hat gesagt: // Michael Wagner wrote: > > >>In terms of software synthesizers, so far, I only looked into Alsa >>Modular Synth and Zynaddsubfx. I like both of them, but I think, to >>apply techniques like multiple wavetable synthesis or additive >>analysis/resynthesis (which sounded particularly interesting to me) >>and to get a wide range of different sounds, I need to get my hands >>on more "sophisticated" tools like Pd, CSound or whatever else there >>is. But actually, I have no idea, which one to choose. The point is, >>that I really don't want to delve into one of these languages, only >>to find out, that I should have learned another one... > > > Well, you will need to do just exactly that: Dive in and try things > out. We all did, we all chose some tools first which we don't use > anymore, but still got something valuable out of them. For example I > started with Csound. I even bought the Csound Book, which is now > collecting dust on my shelf, as I don't use Csound at all anymore. I > tried some more software and then settled on Pd, which still is > exactly what suits my working habits and aesthetics best with its > realtime nature and visual approach. (I'm also capable of "real > programming" with text editors however I like to do music in other > ways.) > > >>So... what is the tool to use? I want to be able to do the synthesis >>techniques described in the before mentioned book, it should be >>controllable in realtime (at least for less resource-intensive >>patches). With "controllable" I mean, that one should be able to >>easily change important parameters, e.g. by assigning >>MIDI-controllers to them and changing these values over time either >>manually or letting a sequencing tool change them. It would be nice, >>if output via jack would be supported, so it can be integrated with >>other Software tools, as well as my hardware synth and drumcomputer. > > > As I wrote above nobody except you can tell what you will like but > from your descrption I guess: You are a typical Pd user! Give it a > try. You also might want to try SuperCollider or Csound. Pd is > powerful, but not really hard to get into, especially not while you > are reading a book like the CMT or the Dodge/Jerse book. > > You should subscribe to pd-list: http://iem.at/mailinglists/pd-list/ > > You should then start with reading Pd's html manual, which many > beginners unfortunatly like to skip and then they ask all those > questions which are explained in the html manual already. This is a > bit annoying of course. ;) Better read it first and afterwards ask > about the points you didn't fully understand. The html docs are > online here: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/ > > After you read the html, go through the documentation patches once. > They are numbered for a reason: follow that order, and don't skip the > "2.control.examples" part just because you want to do audio stuff > immediatly. These examples are very important, too, to get the bigger > picture. All Pd patches can be edited, changed, copied etc. Doing > this is *the* way to learn Pd. > > Ciao -- -------------------------------------------- ----------- http://www.mprims.tk --------------------------------------------