Wow. CVS version of PD compiled fine. Only the sine wave demo in extra/ dir makes sound. Other demos makes no sound. The demo situation could be better. I would like to have an analog-style synth patch. Anyone? I would like to have a list of all the available objects and abstractions. Anyone? A list having the icon of the object and a short description next to the icon. Now it is rather difficult to find out what objects are available. Small problems occured: When I add a slider to an object, the slider does not pick up the object's default values. How to do this? I could not add adsr object to "*~ 0.5" object but could add it to "*~" object. Confusing. Jack did not compile. I probably should upgrade Jack. Audio in the sine wave demo started skipping (A/D/A sync errors). If the patch is large, the patch windows opens up too large for the screen. Adjusting the window size from its edge causes a large jump in the window size or location -- cannot see which one it is. But the window opens too small as well even if the patch would fit to the half of the screen. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software