Last Monday 25 July 2005 22:15, Kevin Cosgrove was like: > On 25 July 2005 at 15:46, Ben Loftis <ben@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Most professional audio gear is like a bicycle. A bike is > > certainly not intuitive to a first time user, but once you > > learn how to balance, steer, etc, you can get around faster > > than someone on foot. This has sometimes been described as > > "intuitable" rather than intuitive. > > Or, "discoverable" versus "usable". > > Word is easy to discover for easy things to do. 'vi' is > *much* faster, if my 'vi' speed versus the 'Word' speed of my > compatriots is any gauge. Pull-down menus are "intuitive", where > as hot-keys are not. But, hot-keys get the work done quickly > once they're known. Pull-down menus which list their hot-key > shortcuts in the menu are quite nice for me. The Opera web > browser is one example of this. Thanks Kevin. All keybindings have to be learned. I can't use vi without constant reference to the manual. I dare say the same would be true of emacs. I dislike them both and use nedit for everything, simply because it works much more like a Windows based editor, so I had to relearn less in order to get typing when I first migrated. It's nothing to do with intuitabilty either - old habits die hard. cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk