On Sunday 24 July 2005 17:11, Christoph Eckert wrote: > So how can those people be kept away from bugtrackers and > devel mailing lists? i think that bugtrackers and devmls are already a good measure. you need to register. you have to fill out a few things. you need to be able to grasp the concept of double-opt-in... usually when it comes to this, people who are not reading manuals fail ;) otherwise i'd suppose that it is impossible to avoid the sheep. you could try to write a manual that sounds professional and logical to programmers but isn't too appealing to beginners. or you could teach them some manners. or ignore them. or tell them to go back to windows. there are lots of possibilities. i needed about 7 years until i was ready to switch the platform and accept the gnu paradigm. > I really hope that as many people as possible can use and > benefit from free software, but yes, you're right, the above > points are valid. i think there should be no newbie-appealing improvements before the software isn't rock-stable and making reasonable use of cpu power. after that, why not? > I think it's great if "normal users" enter the free software > world, but those should perhaps use the software only and > shut up ;-) ? or file helpful bug reports. most of them come from an operating system that was claiming to be their bitch. with gnu software, its a symbiosis. we are each others bitch. ;) -- -- leonard "paniq" ritter -- http://www.paniq.org -- http://www.mjoo.org