> Another thing, bluntly put: The drums suck so very hard that they manage > to make me cry after all. Know what I think? That drum-sequencers are > just wrong. They do strange things to people. They did to the 80s. > > All the best to you, Wolfgang The fact that you think they ruined *80's* music is an indication of just how far drum programming has come. It's used more than ever now in commercial music, but the programmers and sequencers have come along enough that you don't notice that it's sequenced. I have no doubt that with csound I could program drums that only a drummer or a professional engineer *might* be able to tell are sequenced. Not that in many many instaces I don't think real drummers are vastly preferrable, but dismissing drum sequencing out of hand for all types of music is just silly. You might as well dismiss synthesizers for not having the same spectral richness as violins! Iain