On Sun, 03 Jul, 2005 at 10:49AM +0100, tim hall spake thus: > Last Saturday 02 July 2005 16:41, Thorsten Wilms was like: > > Personaly, I don't see the choice of patches/sounds as part of > > the production ... or rather it's inbetween composition/generation > > and production. > > I believe it's called 'arrangement'. I've never been able to work like that. I know that's the way it should be done, with steps and definable phases, but I just have to do everything at once. I can't just drop something in and then work on it later - everything about the drums, say, has to be done as I'm doing it. So, that includes selecting drums, getting them into the rhythm I want, compressing them, getting any effects I want on them all or individual drums and eq'ing it all. Often I do this at the same time I do the bass, with all of the twiddling needed there, too. It might just be because I have a bad memory - I'd forget what the hell I wanted to do with things if I left it for later. That, and I can't separate making music and producing music. To me, "over produced" is like saying "over musical". Which is nonsense. Anyway. I loved the track, but the sounds grate a little. Just a thought though - how old are you (Steve)? It could be a generational thing - I'm 26 and I've listened to overproduced music all my life. Most of the kind of music I listen to seems to have over production built in from the outset. Although I wouldn't call it over production - I'd just say it's making what would traditionally be called production into just another musical device. I was going to say that this is just my 2p, but looking back, I'd say it's more of a 14p email. James http://dis-dot-dat.net/ > cheers, > > tim hall > http://glastonburymusic.org.uk > -- "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you." (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power)