Mark C., A couple of days ago, you posted: > tool that it would be better in 90% of usage cases that a > simple set of reliable but convincing presets Past history, current use, and the proliferation of reverb models strongly suggest that users don't agree what the presets should be, and that's the problem. Even so, I did offer a set to those who request. You also suggested that I somehow "condemned" you to "never use" my programs. Linux is user-supported software. Anyone who uses any type of Linux software, whether it be audio or whatever, should be prepared to roll up their sleeves and work on the software as well as "just make music," or whatever they really wanted to do. Those who aren't willing to do this condemn themselves. Now I realize that getting really involved is tough, but anyone who would be critical should understand that I didn't know anything about all this when I started out, either. I especially hate working on GUI's, yet I learned all about Gtk+ and Glade, then created some for potential users --- so I'm "walking the walk." --------------------------------- To a more general audience: I would strongly encourage anyone who wants to "just make music" or "just whatever" to go back to Windows or Mac. Such people who insist on trying to use Linux because they despise Microsoft or Bill Gates or because they want to make some sort of political statement are setting themselves up for repeated disappointment and disillusionment. This message should be communicated more often than it is, especially here in Linux Audio or other multimedia where Linux is far, far behind Windows and Mac for general users. What I see is that most LAUer's who claim that they "just want to make music" also "want to save money," "want to stick it to Microsoft," "want to use only open source software" and so on.... Regards, Dave.