Just chiming in on the reverb subject. I have Pro Tools and Digital Performer with a host of stock and VST reverbs but I like my linux reverbs an awful lot. The ladspa version of Gverb is nice I think but one of the best, though you have to process it off line, is from DAP. http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~richardk/ I like to make a separate stereo track of my carefully tweaked DAP track and mix it in with the original. Just my $.02. Matt Quoting linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: > Send linux-audio-user mailing list submissions to > linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > linux-audio-user-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linux-audio-user-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of linux-audio-user digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: M audio delta 44 (David) > 2. RE: RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 (Ivica Ico Bukvic) > 3. Re: Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? (Joe Hartley) > 4. Re: Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? (Jon Morin) > 5. Re: Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? (Steve Harris) > 6. Re: dssi segfault (Walco) > 7. Re: Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? (Mark Constable) > 8. Re: RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 (Christian Schumann) > 9. Re: Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? (Steve Harris) > 10. RE: RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 (Frank smith) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 01:25:24 +0100 > From: David <dplist@xxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] M audio delta 44 > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: eviltwin69@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <20050126012524.52276f6c.dplist@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:21:23 -0500 > Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <rzewnickie@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:07:34AM +0000, Tobiah wrote: > > > >If you wonder why > > > >the 1010lt is so much cheaper per channel: it has the DA/AD's on > > > >board while the 44, 66 and 1010 [without lt] have them in a > > > >breakout box which should help keeping noise out.. > > > > I'm pretty sure the da/ad on my 66 lives on the pci card. > > You're right. And the optional Omni I/O preamp/breakout box is an > analog-only device, like a miniature mixer. > > It works great here in my system, thanks to the ALSA developpers and > the fine attitude of the manufacturer. > > > But, I only make noise, so I can't say anything about how much that > > detail affects the quality of my work. > > -- > > Eric Dantan Rzewnicki | Systems Engineer I > > Technical Operations Division | Radio Free Asia > > Have a nice day. > > -- > David > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:46:45 -0500 > From: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <ico@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 > To: <Martin.Wohlleben@xxxxxx>, "'A list for linux audio users'" > <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20050126014303.RRBB4914.gx5.fuse.net@64BitBadass> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Similar problem here except probably worse. Nando has also reported similar > issues on alsa-devel list. I'd suggest voicing your concerns there as to the > best of my knowledge the hdsp stuff is broken in 1.0.8. > > Best wishes, > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer & multimedia sculptor > http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: linux-audio-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-audio- > > user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Wohlleben > > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:15 PM > > To: A list for linux audio users > > Subject: [linux-audio-user] RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 > > > > Hello, > > > > is anybody using ALSA 1.08 with a RME Multiface over Cardbus interface? > > I'm currently working with a SUSE Kernel 2.6.5 and tried a SUSE Kernel > > 2.6.8 > > too. > > The Kernel 2.6.5 work's fine with ALSA 1.03 but after an upgrade to ALSA > > 1.08 > > I got problems with the hdspmixer from alsa-tools. > > The same problem occured with SuSE's 2.6.8 Kernel from SuSE 9.2 - even > > without > > an update to ALSA 1.08. > > After the upgrade the peaks of the first 7 analog channels jitter and the > > RMS > > values (calculated by Multiface) aren't updated right. > > The sound is ok but the hdspmixer problem is real annoying. > > > > Anybody who got his Multiface working with ALSA 1.08? > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/2005 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.4 - Release Date: 1/25/2005 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 21:02:16 -0500 > From: Joe Hartley <jh@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20050125210216.1b1a0e42.jh@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 09:28:56 -0800 > Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Anyway, i'm pretty disappointed with the software reverbs available on > > Linux. Myself, i resigned for the moment to hardware reverb: > > > > http://www.tcelectronic.com/M-OneXL > > > > It's not convolution but it's actually pretty damn good (and very > > flexible). > > I still go to a rack of outboard gear for a number of my effects, including > compression and reverb. I use a t.c. M300 which also has a multi-effect > channel. > > > Anyway, yeah, we need much better reverbs on Linux. We're lagging behind > > a lot in that area. > > There's been some good work done by folks so far, but yes, this is true. > -- > ====================================================================== > Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 22:30:21 -0500 > From: Jon Morin <jon.j.morin@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <89c1e77d0501251930590abef1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I actually just started using ecasound, and it can do some pretty cool > things. I'm still looking for that "perfect" reverb, but I'm > constantly amazed by the depth and variety of audio software available > for Linux. I do a lot of non-realtime stuff, so ecasound, csound, > Audacity, apps like that are very useful to me. I love being able to > script things like ecasound, and it's just awesome the number of ways > (different ways from other platforms) that these tools can be used. I > understand that audio on Linux is still a maturing platform, and my > prediction is that in a year, I won't be wanting for much when it > comes to my dream Linux studio. My hats off to all of the Linux audio > developers. > > Jon > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:32:22 +0000 > From: Steve Harris <S.W.Harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20050126083222.GC18853@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:16:42 +0000, Frank smith wrote: > > Hi All > > > > Can we use VST plugins with any Linux apps? > > Only those that use a vst loading libarary or support dssi plugins. > > However this is not really a solution, your still running propreitary, > windows code. One or the other is probably not too bad, but both? :) > > - Steve > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:46:17 +0100 > From: Walco <walco-linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] dssi segfault > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <41F758D9.5020703@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Steve Harris wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 02:46:08 -0800, Matthew Allen wrote: > > > >>I have been trying to get dssi up and running on my machine this > >>afternoon and I have run into a snag. It appears to compile correctly > >>(both CVS and tarballs). But whenever I try to do the tests I get a > >>segfault. I know its some user error, but its difficult to track down > >>with only a segfault. > >> > >>Is there a common mistake I am doing? > > > > > > Segfaults are (almost) never due to user errors. Unless you did > > something truely wierd or forced an install its the developers fault :) > > > > It could be that your system networking config is a bit odd. Verisons of > > liblo < 0.16, which the DSSI test code depends on, segfaulted under some > > condititons. > > > > Unfortunatly I cant remember the fix, but hopefully someone here can... > > IIRC, make sure that the name reported by hostname(1) is in the > /etc/hosts file. Otherwise liblo would segfault when trying to launch a > new server. > > Cheers, > Walco > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:52:38 +1000 > From: Mark Constable <markc@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <41F75A56.8020103@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Steve Harris wrote: > >>Can we use VST plugins with any Linux apps? > > > > Only those that use a vst loading libarary or support dssi plugins. > > > > However this is not really a solution, your still running propreitary, > > windows code. One or the other is probably not too bad, but both? :) > > So what is the best path of action to ensure we have > access to professional quality reverb sometime this > century ? > > What are the possible options? > > --markc > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:22:44 +0100 > From: Christian Schumann <schumann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 > To: linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <20050126092244.GA28555@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 08:46:45PM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > > Similar problem here except probably worse. Nando has also reported similar > > issues on alsa-devel list. I'd suggest voicing your concerns there as to > the > > best of my knowledge the hdsp stuff is broken in 1.0.8. > I have my HDSP Digiface working with ALSA 1.0.8 under linux 2.4.27, but > last night I tried to get it working with 2.6.11rc2-RT, which was to no > positive result. So to me it seems that this is a compatibility issue > with ALSA 1.0.8 and kernel 2.6, because it works with 2.4 > > Regards > Christian > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dipl.-Phys. Christian Schumann |Technische Universitaet Kaiserslautern > Mail: schumann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | Fachbereich Physik > Tel.: 0631/205-4842 | http://www.physik.uni-kl.de > Fax.: 0631/205-3902 | > Post: Erwin-Schroedinger-Strasse, D-67663 Kaiserslautern > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:13 +0000 > From: Steve Harris <S.W.Harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] Decent reverb, and DSP in hardware? > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <20050126093413.GA19885@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 06:52:38 +1000, Mark Constable wrote: > > Steve Harris wrote: > > >>Can we use VST plugins with any Linux apps? > > > > > >Only those that use a vst loading libarary or support dssi plugins. > > > > > >However this is not really a solution, your still running propreitary, > > >windows code. One or the other is probably not too bad, but both? :) > > > > So what is the best path of action to ensure we have > > access to professional quality reverb sometime this > > century ? > > Well, I'm not a reverb expert, but my impression is that convolved reverbs > are the way to go*. The actual code is relativly simple, and we allready > have open source examples, and its possible for people with decent > recording equimpent and access to spaces with interesting acoustics, or > artificial reverb units to capture thier own impulses. They can also be > synthsised using a method similar to raytracing. > > The downside is that the parameters you can control are very limited, and > it burns quite a lot of CPU power, and there can be latency. The upside is > that the sound can be very good. > > There is an obivious technique to prevent any latency problems, but bits > of it are probably patented by Lake DSP, though the situation is a bit > murky. > > If I had more time I'd like to take the code in brutefir and make it into > a DSSI plugin with a simple dropdown select-an-impulse, set gain type > interface. > > I have a sizeable library of impulses, but unfortuantly I dont know the > provenance of many of them. > > - Steve > > * In the interests of full disclose, I have an addiction to convolution > that should be decalred :) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:14:10 +0000 > From: Frank smith <hg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: [linux-audio-user] RME Multiface with ALSA 1.08 > To: A list for linux audio users <linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <1106734450.4660.12.camel@xxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain > > HI I to had a the same problems with my RME card on Alsa and FC3. > I can see the HDSP Icon on Gnome along with the config icon but it > doesn't do anything. > > Cheers > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-01-25 at 20:46 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > > Similar problem here except probably worse. Nando has also reported > > similar > > issues on alsa-devel list. I'd suggest voicing your concerns there as > > to the > > best of my knowledge the hdsp stuff is broken in 1.0.8. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer & multimedia sculptor > > http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > linux-audio-user mailing list > linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > End of linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 16, Issue 115 > ************************************************* >
