For me, ALSA creates a common ground for such layer to arise, so I just suggest to wait for ALSA to mature and more apps to support it. And, in fact, I don't know about you, but all I do is: * Install my Debian image * Create a profile for me * Install UT2004 * And play with sound and graphics in all glory Sound chip is discovered with small app discover, similar to Kundzu, without bothering me (all I can discuss about is ALSA default mixer settings, but it can be saved in some kind of default for common user - if you wish). Graphics is detected too - it still needs lot of work but it's getting here. So it works, without any kind of problem. As for multiple sources of sound played in once - I don't know, I don't like a Windows solution for this, but some kind of such level mixing would be nice - but it could be even better than other OSes, for example, when I watch a movie, all 'dingles and dangles' (new email, friend bothering you trough ICQ with important message, download completed) could be very silent, somewhere in the background. It could be done trough D-BUS, I guess - as I know that there was ideas of while watching something full screen, trough D-BUS get other apps like GAIM know that I'm busy now watching movie :) Peter. On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:48:51 +0100, tommy <illth@xxxxxx> wrote: > Lee Revell schrieb: > > >On Thu, 2005-01-06 at 15:23 +0100, tommy wrote: > > > > > >>so what to do if u have a cheap onboard sound (nForce board) that has no > >>hardware mixing capabilities? > >> > >>looks like the following: > >>1) try to get TS work with aoss. > >>2) give up. search the internet. try artsdsp. > >>3) download openal-source via cvs > >>4) download a patch for openal to use it with ut2004 > >>5) recompile openal with alsa support (need to install libasound2-dev > >>packags before ...) > >>6) copy the library to ut2004 directory > >>7) make an .asoundrc file that allows dmixing for artsd and ut2004, and > >>audio input for artsd > >>8) modify TS startup script so that it will start artsd if not already > >>running, and LD_PRELAOD artsdsp libraries. > >>optional: > >>9) feel pisssed of about all (arts(dsp) adds some noticable lag to > >>audio!) that and get an audigy2 > >> > >> > > > >Or: > > > >1) get a real sound card - this is what many Windows users in your > >situation do > > > > > > > Windows users don't come to this situation. the install windows, > install their soundcard drivers, install ts, install ut2004, and thats it- > if a windows user gets a "real" soundcard, then due to other reasons, > eg. the onboard sound sucks, or he wants to get some extra fps. > > btw: see step 9) > > >Or: > > > >1) complain to the authors of TeamSpeak and UT2004 that they should not > >be using a deprecated API, they should use the ALSA API > > > > > >Or: > > > >1) get nvidia to release some docs on the nforce2. Support for this is > >completely reverse engineered, they refuse to release ANY docs. For all > >we know this card does do hardware mixing, but we can't support it for > >lack of docs. > > > > > yes, hehe. > > it would be good if they (TeamSpeak !) would switch to alsa- > and in fact they are pretending taht they work on TS3 with > alsa support, but until then, no chance. And i guess this will > still take some time. > > a word on the nForce chipset: > > 1) the original nForce has an DSP built in > 2) the nForce 2 with MCP-T southbridge has DSP built in, the MCP doesn't > 3) AFAIK, nForce 3 and nForce 4 also lack the DSP > > but thats not the point. i bought that audigy2, and its a good soundcard, > apart from a few issues that will be fixed sooner or later. > > but what i wanted to say was the following: > it's not easy to use for someone thats new to linux- > in fact, once i succeeded to convince someone to give linux a try- > but he could not get this to work with just 2 mouseclicks. So he > switched back to windows :( > > Thats the point ... if linux should become a desktop alternative, > then we definitely need such an `Common linux audio layer`. > > but: less linux gamers, less games ported to linux :'( > there is the ut series, and all stuff from id. but no halflife 2 > > btw. this was meant as an reply to Dubphil. > > -tom > > >Lee > > > > > > > > > > > >
