> > If anyone can emulate the wav in that image and have > it > play back without clipping then however they managed > to > do that (without outboard equipment) then I'd really > appreciate the howto. The rub is it can be done on a > Mac. It's pretty easy to accomplish. Check Quiktoots for my article on Loudness. If it's not clear enough to be helpful I'll respond to questions. The article is in part a response or elaboration on Rowan's argument against smashing a limiter to achieve loudness. I try to explain how to achieve loudness without squaring off waves. I provide a couple examples for why and when maximum loudness are exactly the right solution. ron > --markc > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo