--- Jan Depner <eviltwin69@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One of the coolest things you can do with Ardour and > JAMin is to run > mixing and mastering at the same time. Start Ardour > and JAMin, route > your Ardour master bus out to JAMin's inputs, route > JAMin's outs back to > a new stereo track in Ardour. or to a stereo bus which eliminates two steps; realtime record pass and subsequent export. Or is that one step... :) precoffee letters reveal my stupidity. You can tweak single > tracks and the > mastering controls at the same time. Even if you > don't run the JAMin > outs back to Ardour you can still check out the > mastered sound and be > able to adjust single tracks. I don't know if > there's any combination > of apps that will do this on Windows or Mac. Once > the OSC stuff is > working well you'll be able to automatically queue > scene changes from > Ardour to JAMin. Ron Parker has been testing this > and I don't know > where it stands at the moment. The LADSPA OSC plugin JAMin Controler is working. This implementation is probably proof of concept. Ardour is slated to have internal OSC at some point. That and some other fixes and features will make the strategy competitive with the best available solutions. I'm talking about shit that costs $10,000.00. I've explained a concept of Chunks to Paul Davis that would enable us to manage multitrack sources for many songs. Multitrack source mastering currently is proof of concept because mastering is about controling the loudness of many songs and not one song. We handle one multitrack source very well right now. I need to file a feature request in mantis that explains the idea in greater detail. What we have today with multitrack source capabilities and OSC demonstrates that JACK, Ardour and JAMin combined do what no other tool set does. Multitrack mastering is fine and dandy but the JAMin part of mastering a well produced mix is a 30 second job. So stereo files are fine if the work is high quality. The remaining weakness is in producing the Table of Contents for the CD and freewheel export direct to CD. The Ardour locations interface is the key to that realm. It's been discussed but a mantis feature request is probably a good idea. The above concepts when properly implemented will enable engineers to focus on musicians and producers rather than production details. It's a very important concept. I used to have Ardour mixing and mixing mastering demo sessions but they are probably trash by now. I'm working on new materials. I recently hired a professional video producer and camera person and filmed a very nice production in my studio using Ardour. These materials are a replacement for the book I started in 2001 but can't stand to work on. All of this is intended to be mulitimedia presentation for audio engineering and production. Anyways, I'll shutup before ramblings drift way out to topics like fishing and sexual kinks or the first lunar launch. ron > Jan > > > On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 13:38, Jon Morin wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have been asked to give a mini-seminar and live > demonstration later > > this year on Ardour and Linux audio applications > to the audio > > engineering students at the university that I work > for. I plan to do > > a general overview of Linux with some diagrams and > web links for > > further reading, some info about applications > available, and supported > > hardware. > > > > Next, I will give a live demo of a session in the > recording studio at > > the university. I'll bring in my computer, and > set it up next to the > > ProTools machine that they are used to using, > connect it to the > > projector so they all can see what I'm doing, and > basically do a > > simple recording and mixing session with Ardour. > > > > The point is these students work with nice, > expensive hardware and > > ProTools on a nice fast Macintosh computer in the > studio, but when the > > class ends, many will want to continue their work > in the home studio > > environment, and the director there wants me to > present Linux as an > > affordable and stable alternative for pro audio > work (as opposed to > > students having to buy ProTools, Sonar, Reason, or > whatever) to get > > some decent work done. > > > > I plan on having someone videorecord the > presentation and demo, and if > > it comes out any good, I'll make up DVD's and > distribute them to > > whomever wants one for the cost of the media and > shipping. > > > > Any ideas on stuff to include, or how to make this > a killer > > presentation? BTW, sorry to cross-post, but I > felt that this > > pertained to both the Ardour group and the LAU > folks (many who are on > > both lists). I'm just overjoyed that I will get > to show this stuff > > and hopefully convert a few users :) I'm also > thinking about burning > > off a bunch of copies of the various audio-focused > distros to hand out > > at the seminar. > > > > Jon M. > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo