Rick Wright wrote: > Lee Revell wrote: > >> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 16:00 -0500, Rick Wright wrote: >> >> >>> Lee Revell wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 14:46 -0500, Rick Wright wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rick Wright wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like the qjackctl windows (i.e. the control window, >>>>>>> messages, connections, status) to open for a subsequent >>>>>>> executation in the same screen locations as I had them at >>>>>>> shutdown from the last execution. Is this possible? I can't >>>>>>> seem to find an option for this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All (and only those) windows that were visible from the previous >>>>>>> execution do indeed appear on the subsequent application run >>>>>>> (which is good), but the window positioning appears to be >>>>>>> forgotten. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rui, if this is not currently supported, would it be possible to >>>>>>> add this feature? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Window positioning persistence is already featured and is default >>>>>> behavior, for quite some time. AFAICS its been ever since ;). >>>>>> Problem is that behavior may vary, with some glitches depending >>>>>> on your particular WM. It is well known, at least to me, that >>>>>> window positions aren't remembered very well if you stick to use >>>>>> the WM close button on those window titles, usually the ones >>>>>> labeled as [X]. OTOH if you use qjackctl main window control >>>>>> buttons, to toggle child window visibility and to quit >>>>>> application, all seems to work just fine ;) or so I believe and >>>>>> been told. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I am finding inconsistency in the window positioning persistence. >>>>> Sometimes the windows appear in the same position, sometimes they >>>>> don't. This has been tested using only the QJC main window >>>>> control buttons as recommended above. >>>>> >>>>> Leaving the windows open (only testing using 4 of them: main, >>>>> status, messages, connections) upon shutdown (quit on main window) >>>>> and restarting QJC sometimes gives the same locations and >>>>> sometimes not, but it seems that the windows don't like the >>>>> presence of other windows (i.e. an xterm from which to start QJC!) >>>>> and the most prevalent offender is the main window. Actually, it >>>>> seems that upon the first restart of QJC, the positions are >>>>> remembered, but without moving any windows, a second quit/restart >>>>> results in some windows appearing cascaded from the top left of >>>>> the desktop. Window sizes are always remembered. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone else reproduce this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> What desktop environment and window manager are you using and which >>>> version? >>>> >>>> Lee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Reply try #3..... >>> >>> Running an up-to-date FC4/GNOME (2.6.10) system. >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> >> >> OK, I just reproduced this on my Ubuntu Breezy system, Gnome 2.12.0. If >> I run qjackctl, open the Messages window, move it, open the Connect >> window, move that, then close the main window by clicking the X, next >> time I run it the Messages window has moved back to where it started. >> >> Surely this is a WM bug, the app can't be responsible for remembering >> the position of its windows? >> >> Lee >> >> >> >> > Rui seemed to indicate that if you close those windows by toggling the > associated button on the main window (rather than the X as you did) > that the positions should persist. For me, they all do *except* the > messages window. That doesn't seem like a WM bug to me. > > Try this: open the app, open the message and status windows and move > them somewhere. Then, simply toggle the buttons and see where they > reappear. > > I just tried this again with the patchbay window (my first test with > patchbay) and it shows the same non-persistence behavior as the > messages window. > > As far as closing the app with the quit button and then restarting, > the results are mixed as I described above. It seems that the window > positions persist (mostly) upon the first restart, but without moving > any windows, a subsequent quit/restart seems to lose window position > information. This seems app related too, no? > > Rick > > Rick et al., Been off doing some Web work but glad to see this thread working its way along. Here's my latest results with your latest scenario: Open QJC, open Messages and Status, observe they open right where I set them when I first tested and replied to your posting, move them around, toggle those two windows with their respective buttons and they persist right where I just moved/left them. Rinse, repeat... works as expected. Same with Patchbay. Then, I closed down QJC with those windows still opened and re-launched it to find the windows in the same place they were when I closed it. Then, I closed down QJC with those windows toggled closed and re-launched it to find that when I toggled the windows back open they were in the same place I left them when I toggled them off before closing QJC. So, Fedora Core 3 fully updated with CCRMA and all core apps, Fluxbox 0.9.13, QJackCtl 0.2.15 results in the expected behavior. Frank
