Hi Ron thats a nice sound on the vocals there. Talking of that heres a link for you all. http://www.projectoverseer.biz/music/play.php?band_id=92&song_id=573&mode=song_hifi The song will just play Instead of me telling you what was used, have a guess!! I'll tell you its an Takomine with electrics built in. into a DDX 3216 and into Ardour on 64studio So: 1 How was it recorded? 2 What mike/type was used on the vocals I think this was we have to losten to the track in a different light without knowing what kit was used. Just curious to see what you all think. Cheers Bob R Parker wrote: > Hi Paul, > > After a very quick listen I think your wife has a very > nice voice. Is she ready to leaving you? Because I am > available. > > Ron > > --- Paul Winkler <pw_lists@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:55:20AM -0500, Brett >>McCoy wrote: >> >>>I'm of the opinion that you should work on getting >> >>the vocals to sound >> >>>good dry -- before adding any effects. What are >> >>you using to record the >> >>>vocals? I recommend a good condensor mike and a >> >>pre-amp, >> >>+1000. The best investment is a good mic. >>It doesn't have to be all that expensive if you do >>your research. >>I bought an MXL V67G on ebay for under $100 with >>shock mount >>and I've been pretty happy with the results. Google >>for that >>and "Harvey Gerst" and you'll know why I got it. >>Gerst's online >>writings are priceless for people doing recording on >>the cheap. >>Sure, I'd rather have a Neumann, but who has the >>money for that? >>Another important point about mics is that some mics >>are better >>suited to different voices or even different songs. >>Try what >>you have, there's no such thing as the one true mic. >> >>My preamps aren't anything special - I have a Mackie >>1202 VLZ - it's >>fine for now, but a little harsh in the treble. I'll >>probably upgrade >>that before getting any more expensive mics. >> >>I often compress on the way in, using an FMR RNC. >>(But not always; >>sometimes I leave it until later and use SC4 mono). >>Vocals are pretty >>tolerant of large amounts of compression, and I find >>that having good >>solid levels in my headphones helps me get better >>pitch. So does having >>some reverb in the phones. I do in-computer reverb >>with hardware >>monitoring by setting up a bus for the reverb and >>setting its input to >>the hardware input, so it doesn't go to "tape". >>Then I listen to the >>results without reverb and sometimes decide it >>doesn't need any! But >>anything that helps an unconfident singer (i.e. me) >>get a better >>performance is worthwhile. >> >>I've tried all the reverbs... freeverb, gverb, TAP >>reverb, >>versatile plate... I don't have a favorite yet, >>they're all useful for >>vocals. >> >>A tip for using Freeverb: It may seem a bit plain >>and sometimes harsh >>for vocals by itself, but you can get very good >>sounds out of it with >>some tricks: >> >>First, set the "damping" really high, that makes it >>smoother. >> >>Now try adding some predelay - a simple delay plugin >>in front of the reverb, >>at 100% wet; try around 50 ms delay to start with - >>that makes the >>"room" a little bigger and more interesting. Lower >>the delay time to make it more subtle; bump it up to >>100 ms to make it a more obvious effect. >> >>Finally, try post-filtering; follow the delay/reverb >>combo with a low >>pass filter (the simple one-pole filter from CMT >>will do fine); set the >>cutoff around 5000 Hz to start with and adjust to >>taste. Smooooth. >> >>Here's an example using the above freeverb recipe >>(please don't anybody >>make permanent links to this one as it's a rough mix >>of stuff that we're >>probably going to re-record due to some performance >>flubs and some >>too-hot levels you can hear a bit): >> >> > > http://slinkp.com/~paul/dont_get_sad_mix_20051206.mp3 > >> >>I played guitar and sang backups (badly), my wife >>sang lead >>(beautifully). >> >>And no, we didn't write that, it's a cover of an Ida >>song. >>I wish I wrote that. >> >> >>Other technical notes: >>Lots of compression (SC1) on each vocal track. >>Maybe 6:1 ratio, attack around 30 ms, release around >>120 ms. No EQ on >>Abby's voice. I forget if that was the MXL V67G or >>the MXL V57 (which I >>sometimes like better on female voices, it has less >>of an upper-mid >>presence peak). >> >>Some 10-band EQ on my voice due to poor mic choice >>during tracking >>(Sennheiser 421 which is a GREAT all-purpose mic but >>for this song I >>found it too present and sibilant in the upper mids >>for backing vocals). >> >>Which brings up another idea ... if you want a >>brighter >>reverb sound than I was going for in that track, >>like super-in-your- >>face radio pop, one problem is that voices can get >>really sibilant. >>TAP De-Esser can be really handy here. Put it on the >>vocals >>after compression, before EQ and before reverb. >>Then you can >>make really obnoxiously bright vocals without the >>ssssssibilancccccce >>tearing your head off. I don't have any recorded >>examples of >>this to share - yet :-) >> >> >>>and use >>>balanced XLR for the entire signal path, at least >> >>until where the signal >> >>>is going into your audio interface, where you >> >>probably just have RCA or >> >>>1/8" inputs. >> >>That's nice if the rest of your gear is already >>pretty good, but >>personally I don't worry about balancing line levels >>at this point. >>In my view it's a lot less important than having a >>good mic, good >>soundcard, and good preamp. >> >>-- >> >>Paul Winkler >>http://www.slinkp.com >> > > > > > > __________________________________________ > Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. > Just $16.99/mo. or less. > dsl.yahoo.com > > -- Bearmusic hearmymusic.co.uk <http:www.hearmymusic.co.uk>
