Brad Fuller wrote: > Shayne O'Connor wrote: > >> Lee Revell wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 20:35 +0100, tim hall wrote: >>> >>>> If we are going to assume CC status for works posted here >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> IANAL but I am almost positive that would not hold up in a US court. >>> Creative works default to "All rights reserved", which includes anything >>> posted to this list without a specific license attached, regardless of >>> what the informal list policy is. >> >> >> >> just in the interests of clarifying something (i doubt it will serve >> much practical purpose here): >> >> it is agreed that, in the absence of any other licensing information, >> that creative works will default to "All rights reserved" ... but out >> of interest, does posting a link with explicit permission to download >> (ie copy) a song, give up any copyrights *in that instance* ? because >> you are, in effect, lifting some of those implied copyright >> restrictions (otherwise it would be against the law to make a copy of >> it, wouldn't it?). > > > > One needs specific authorization from the copyright owners (both from > composers and the ones who own the sound recording) to distribute or > reproduce copyrighted recorded works. > > IANAL either, but I would propose that if you posted a message to a > specific group (not the world) and indicate that they are allowed to > download a piece, you are in fact giving them the option to listen to > your piece for free. But, they don't own the piece. There is nothing > implied in the act of allowing them to listen to it that indicates they > can transfer the piece to someone else. Because, they don't have the > right -- only the copyright owner does. > just want to make clear - i'm not talking about giving up ownership/authorship/licensing fees ... i'm talking about sharing music, as in "am i allowed to keep this in my shares folder when using soulseek/amule/etc? am i allowed to aggregate/distribute it along the lines of RadIO or Commontunes.org?". this is a pretty important question, i think, and not entirely black and white .... you have to remember that a lot of these copyright laws are, like, in a different dimension to what reality consitutes these days. shayne
