David Cournapeau wrote: > Well, this approach, as installing in /opt (or whatever directory > without the package manager to know)..... I guess I need to learn how to write a little better? What I ment to say in my post was that I do it this way to check out if something will indeed run and if it's worth the trouble to get RPM'd. Maybe I'm a little naive, but I thought that since I do the whole process as a local(non-root) user, that I can't write to most of /usr? Maybe I need to study up on what file permissions mean; because I really thought that since most of it is marked "-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root" when I do a directory listing, that I couldn't write over these areas. Thanks for enlightening me. (and as far as adding libraries from source without using the package manager - been there, done that, already know the pitfalls... that's why I try to keep a clean system:) Tracey.