On Tuesday 26 April 2005 08:47 am, Dave Phillips wrote: > Greetings: > > Levi's response is what is known on Slashdot as a troll. It's > uninformed and uninterested in being helpful. There's plenty of evidence Troll presumes malice. I don't know that it was malicious, but it was ignorant. It may have been based on personal experience and he just didn't account for the fact that he's naive. > now that Linux audio software is performance capable, often exceeding > the performance stability of music software on either the Mac and Windows. > > I could back up my statements with links to the appropriate messages > and forums, except that it is in the nature of a troll to be unconcerned > with either the veracity of the troll itself and to be uninterested in > actually learning anything contrary to the troll. I will suggest that > Mr. Machado look at the Music Made With Linux section of the Linux > soundapps pages and at Jan Weil's Linux audio blog, which includes a > nice list of music made with Linux. > > Iain Duncan has been using the Linux version of Csound for > performances lasting hours at a time, Ron Parker has been employing > Ardour as the DAW of choice in his professional studio (Mirror Image > Studios) for the past six months, and many other people on and off this > list are using Linux daily for the music creation and production needs. > > I suggest that it's Mr. Burton who should unsubscribe, not Mr. > Machado. I also suggest that calling someone an asshole in a response is > just poor form, regardless how provocative the original statement. Mr. > Revell does some outstanding work in Linux audio development, but I > should think a little more civil response was in order. Sorry, Lee, I > admire your work, and I understand the warmth of your reply, but was > "asshole" really necessary ? > > We're going to get more and more people coming to us with questions > like Felipe's, questions which are quite legitimate and want only a > decent straightforward answer so the poster can proceed to make an > informed decision. We won't convince anyone either by posting uninformed > remarks a la Mr. Burton or by responding with name-calling (I agree with > the pundit who stated that once we start calling each other names we've > admitted we're done with any constructive dialog). > Perhaps Lee was shagged out after a long performance ;) > I've lost count of the number of projects that "probably never will" > be achieved by Linux developers, including such software as Ardour, > Mozilla, and even Linux itself. Having just returned from the Linux > audio conference I can confidently state that much Linux audio software > is perfectly usable live, and it is most certainly capable of meeting > some very demanding needs from some very demanding musicians (witness > the concert series, both the composed shows and the improv sets). If > that software works for you, fine, and if not, you can always return to > your previous environment. You should really be most concerned about > getting your work done. For many of us here, Linux audio software is > precisely how we get our own work done. > > Best regards, > > Dave Phillips > > Levi D. Burton wrote: > > Sorry, but if your coming to linux thinking that you will find > > software of comparable performance to something such as Ableton Live, > > you are very mistaken. Nothing on linux even comes close to Ableton > > Live and probably never will. > > > > Why not just use Ableton Live? Save yourself a whole lot of trouble. > > > > Oh, and using linux audio software live? I wouldn't. > > > > Felipe Machado wrote: > >> i use ableton live in my show. but now i want use linux. waht > >> software i have to install to use, looks like ableton live ? or > >> other good sample. > >> i edit some samples and play with a group. > >> > >> thaks