Last Sunday 10 April 2005 09:04, Kai Vehmanen was like: > All those apps and not ecasound... where did my marketing go wrong? ;) There's a kind of user blind spot, due to ecasound being a command-line app. People only tend to think of trying it if they know it or specifically prefer command-line tools. This is why I have pushed for ecasound -c to have a menu entry (under Debian at least) and I'm now trying to think up a suitable icon or two to go with it. Experienced users tend to know where their tools are and don't mind, possibly even like the fact that it comes in a plain brown wrapper. The software and documentation are wonderful, but it doesn't leap off the shelf at you. Several Linux Audio packages lack icons, so I'm happy to coordinate efforts to create / find them. Unfortunately I'm not much of an artist, so I thought I might mention this here in case there are any GIMP/Blender experts lurking on the list who would be interested in contributing. I'm currently open to requests from other developers who know that they don't have any suitable images in their source code. I'm also happy to receive pointers to other icons that I'm likely to have missed or suitably convertible images. I am prepared to coordinate farming the icons out for distribution - any suggestions on how to make them all available to all Linux Audio Users, as well as DeMuDi (excepting the few DeMuDi-specific icons I have done) will be gratefully received. While I'm at it, thanks to all the Authors, Developers and Maintainers who have responded so positively so far. I understand how much this may seem like a side-issue. cheers, tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk