Well I agree what Wolfgang has to say about the Digital public domain .. and one should he happy(?) when they find out that they are being copied . every one has copied charlie parker to chuck berry and if copy rights were in place all the white folks would be paying through their nose to the black folks. All the the modern music (leaving out some bits of electronica) have their ideas, structures, progressions etc derived from black man's music and it is as simple as that :) So let us give our respect to all those people who showed us the way and go ahead and make music. I think that is why we are musicians and w sholud make money by playing live. If your music is getting circulated on the digital domain and your name remains intact with the song while it goes from one hard disk to another to cd's to the internet to P2P .. in a way i think it is good for you maybe someone wil call you up and give you gigs .i think we should exploit these virtual channels now that we are in 2005. <>ISh >Copyright : here is your copy .....right(?) On April 3, 1:04 pm Wolfgang Woehl <tito@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > MarC <marc_contrib@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > I raise this issue because I'm starting a musical project and I > > would like to never release any work that could end like > > http://www.lokitorrent.com/ when the people shares it, I would like > > to use other musicians works (and I can't afford to pay them for > > such work now) and I would finally like to win fairly some money > > making good music (without this money I will never be able to buy > > decent instruments) > > > > is it an utopia? > > Marc, I'm flabbergasted. This is 2005. There's no way you could > prevent people from copying or sharing things in the digital domain. > DRM is a joke. The industry that promotes it is a joke. The business > model is gone, don't you know that? > > How can anyone *own* music? How did Bach do it? How did Capitol > Records do it? The only way to make that claim to some extent real > were technical limitations -- and those are gone for good. > > Coming up with something like G-C-E7 is a complex process, sure ;) > Hell, make it Bbmaj9-Gm7-F/C-C-D/C. But do you really intend to say > this is yours? That you invented this, put it into the world, out of > the blue? Isolated from everything you've ever heard or experienced > in your life? Originality someone? What is that? > > Share your stuff and you will get back more than you ever dreamed of. > To make money it is, in my experience, fairly promising to put your > family's estate to sensible use or, in the lack of an estate, work. > The clownesque, inspired, spiritual, grotesque, old-fashioned, great > field of making music will probably get you all *but* money. > > I'm a bit ashamed to see that all this sounds quite patronizing. > Excuse me, Marc. This a patronizing day and it transfers. > > Wolfgang >