Last Monday 20 September 2004 22:53, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki was like: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 07:55:01PM +0200, rico wrote: > > Le lundi 20 Septembre 2004 19:39, Austin a ?crit?: > > > On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 13:10 +0200, rico wrote: > > > > How comes there is such a difference between two system that uses the > > > > same kernel and config? > > > > Where should i look since the kernel and modules are the same (are > > > > they?)? > > > > > > By using the "stock" kernel, so you mean you compiled it from vanilla, > > > or do you mean the standard kernel included with each distro. > > > If the latter, I assure you that the Mandrakelinux and Debian kernels > > > will be VERY different. We have a few hundred patches in our kernel. > > > If you're compiling from vanilla, there shouldn't be such a defference. > > > Maybe different alsa or glibc version? > > > > Sorry for the imprecision, both system use the vanilla kernel (preemption > > disabled) from kernel.org, both are compiled for an amd processor with > > the same .config file. > > The difference is such that on debian it's just impossible to use band > > in a box with wine whereas it works great on mandrake! > > > > > Keep in mind that Mandrakelinux is i586 optimized, except glibc which > > > is i686 optimized. Debian is only i386 AFAIK. > > > Austin Eh? Whatareyoutalkingabout? I don't know much about kernels, I have never rolled my own, partly because I've never felt I needed to. I've used Debian/...AGNULA/DeMuDi multimedia kernels for the past two years with no problems. However I've not tried this exact combination of software with it. All Debian kernels come with -386 -586 -686 -k7 etc variants. Does that not count as optimised in the way Austin means? --Genuine question btw--- > > Maybe this is the point but i don't know how to solve it. > > I know that the glibc version differ between mandrake and debian i'll > > investigate that. > > I wonder if there is a place somwhere in mandrake's distro, where they > > tweaked something to better the sound system ...(alsa option, IRQ > > fiddling, or something...) > > Since you already have debian sarge installed you might consider adding > packages from Demudi/Agnula: http://demudi.org/ > At the very least you should be able to use their kernel .debs. I'm not > sure because I haven't used demudi yet myself, but it may be as simple > as adding a demudi line to your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get > install'ing the appropriate package(s). It is. Use the Agnula multimedia kernels for music work. Information here: http://wiki.agnula.org/wiki/wiki.phtml?title=DeMuDi-Testing http://www.agnula.org/download/demudi/1.2.0-FAQ For the record, I have nothing against Mandrake, of course. Debian suits my needs better. It's a more 'purist' distro and adheres much more strictly to GNU / Free Software / GPL guidelines than other distros. For this reason it may not interface so willingly with proprietary soft/hardware. If your focus is music, I'd recommend installing AGNULA/DeMuDi it's much less hassle than trying to figure why vanilla Debian won't do the things you want. Whether it handles Band-in-a-box via Wine any better I honestly have no idea. I suspect it will take just as much work whichever way you go about it. cheers tim hall
