Thanks Mark, It's really nice of you to take the time to help, in what must be a fairly frequent occurance. anyway... alsaplayer seems like a possible answer. so typed alsaplayer.... nope su'ed typed alsaplayer nope, find / -name alsaplayer ... nope... I've not got alsaplayer :) goto alsa site download tools/utils no alsaplayer in there :( search on web find alsaplayer :) download .bz2 expand to directory... cd to directory type ./configure :) type make :( nas.c audio/audiolib.h: No such file directory. :( I have looked in ALL the alsa download files and this file oesn't appear. Searching on the web reveals the http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/10.0/contrib/SRPMS/alsaplayer-0.99.76-1mdk.src.html but this is for mandrake 10.0 and upon attempting to find the esound-devel component their appears to be no relevent Mandrake component. Also I do not no the difference between Mandrake & Mandrake Cooker. I don't really mind building from the rpm or performing ./configure make , make install dances but I feel that I am going to end up with a rather bloated system of slightly incompatable versions if I am not careful. So how best to proceed? Chris ps I got the mouse working on 10.1 which was a bit of a game in itself.... :) Mark Knecht wrote: > Chris, > Sorry that you haven't gotten many answers to this question. Let me > take a shot at it. I'm not promising much. > > 1) If you get an endless list of devices showing up in > /proc/asound/cards then clearly something is very, very wrong. I think > that it's hardly worth proceeding further until this gets sorted out, > but unfortunately I've never used a USB audio device so I Cannot help > there. > > 2) Try alsaplayer. I'm not clear if this machine is a desktop or a > laptop. If it was an old style desktop and you were trying to play an > audio CD then you would normally do this through an audio cable hooked > to the sound card. However, since your sound card (working or not) is > a USB device you obviously cannot do this. To get around this issue > you need to use a CD player that will play the audio digitally across > the PCI bus. IIRC xmms will not do this, or at least not without > special plugins. alsaplayer will. Since your sound card (working or > not) is at the end of a USB cable you need to make sure you are using > a player that can communicate. Try alsaplayer. > > 3) alsamixer doesn't work with all sound cards/devices, and I'm not > sure it works with this one. amixer may or may not, I'm not sure. You > could be having trouble simply because the sound card is muted and > will stay that way until you find the right mixer. As you said this > originally I see you understand the problem. We need someone with more > USB experience to pony up the appropriate info. > > Again, I wish I could offer more help. I think it's disappointing > that you've written 3 messages and received no public responses. I > hope you got more help privately. > > With best regards, > Mark > > Chris Lyon wrote: > >> I'm sorry that I've obviously phrased this question all wrong. >> so I'll try to be a little bit more detailed this time. >> >> I have now installed Mandrake 10.1 on the machine. >> and now aplay -l does indeed report the existance of UA-100 card >> kscd shows all the typical signs of playing a cd, it lists tracks, >> it starts counting when play is pressed, >> But no sound emerges. >> amixer reports no mixer elements, or nothing. >> >> /proc/asound/cards displays an endless stream of >> 0 [UA100 ]: USB-Audio - UA - 100 >> Roland UA - 100 at usb-0000:00:07.2 - 2, >> full speed >> >> if I try to select a Device with >> aplay -D= ***** >> nothing I type in seems to make any sense to it. >> if I try to list pcm devices to plug into the above line with aplay >> -D the results are to say the least incomprehensable. >> >> Where do I go next? This used to work when I installed 9.2 >> originally but I have been poking & proding for 4 days now and It >> still desn't work. ONce again I apologies for the way I present my >> questions but I am NOT pestering before trying, I am on a last ditch >> attempt to play a CD on a linux box. >> I won't bore you with my background, but I have a little involvement >> in the synth, computing and audio field and yet this is now getting >> way beyond a joke. I have had this playing with Micheal Minns >> MMUSAUDIO . However ALSA seems the way to go for all things Audio and >> Linux. >> So how do you check the signal path in a system? and what do you do >> if a device appears not to be supported by the mixing facilities? >> >> Chris Lyon >> >> Chris Lyon wrote: >> >>> /proc/asound/cards reports >>> >>> 0 [rev20 ]:VIA686A -VIA 82C686A/B rev20 >>> VIA 82C686A/B rev20 at 0xac00, >>> irq 11 >>> 1 [UA100 ]: USB-Audio - UA-100 >>> Roland UA-100 at usb-00:07.2-2 >>> >>> So it looks like something is seen but how do I get aplay to play to >>> the >>> UA-100? The VIA card has alway's reported itself but neither windows, >>> linux or anything else has ever got any life out of it! >>> >>> so do I use the aplay to select the card even thou, aplay -l doesn't >>> list it? >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Lyon wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Roland UA-100 plugged into PC, usbview detects interface. >>>> >>>> aplay -l doesn't report any knowledge of the device. >>>> >>>> I believe I have loaded the appropriate modules, snd-usb-audio but >>>> the system resolutely refuses to make music as it has before. I >>>> would include the appropriate modules.conf files to show but this >>>> E-mailing machine and the linux box are not connected and I feel >>>> cross reading would be a little error strewn. >>>> >>>> Can anyone outline a procedure for checking at which point a >>>> problem might occur and, if possible, a list of command line >>>> utilities that can reveal precisely what components are loaded. Is >>>> it possible to load modules incompletly such that a component >>>> identifies it's presence but isn't actual functioning. If this is >>>> so how does one check the dependancies? >>>> >>>> I understand that amix and alsamixer won't recognise the presence >>>> of a USB connected audio interface, is this the case? >>>> >>>> Any help appreciated. >>>> >>>> Chris Lyon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >