Paul Winkler wrote: > On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 10:24:11AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >>What's happened in the last few days (for me) is the realization that I >>could actually move tracking and mixing to Ardour one of these days and >>my Pro Tools investment wouldn't be wasted at all. In fact I'll bet that >>VST's running under Win XP Pro/Pro Tools are better supported and more >>stable than they will ever be on Plugzilla, but even if they reach >>parity then the 002 Rack (at $1700 I think) is a nice price point for >>mic preamps, lots of reasonable converters and a platform for native >>processing plugins. > > > Hm... do you already have one? Yes! Sorry if that wasn't clear. I'm a very happy Pro Tools user in most ways, but Digi puts real limitations on what you can do with their PTLE systems, be you a windows or Mac user. They limit you in track count, access to certain plugins, number of units hooked up, all in an attempt to keep their high-end pro equipment as a place PTLE users aspire to get to. My thought 2 years ago was to dump the old 001 system I had, but unfortunately Ardour wasn't ready to play at that level at that time so I went with the upgrade to the 002. Things are changing though. Ardour's much better. Hardware support is somewhat better. That said, what do I do with my 1 year old 002? Sell it? Possibly, but that foresakes a large investment in plugins, as well as kills all my old Pro Tools work. So instead I think... ...turn the 002 into a fancy, programmable outboard sound processor. > It actually seems a bit high priced to me. > If it's only going to be used for a windows box you could > get one of these for less than half the price ... > http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FireWire1814-main.html > Or get a Delta 1010 which has equivalent analog I/O, again for a lot > less, and then get and your choice of external preamps. > (RNP anyone? http://www.fmraudio.com/ ) None of those options come with Pro Tools though, so you'd need to add the cost of Nuendo or Cubase SX to those to begin to get close. RNC is a wonderful unit. RNP I haven't had the pleasure to meet yet but if it's at all like it's older brother then you couldn't go wrong. > If the digi has the same preamps as the Control 24, a studio-owning > friend of mine says they're pretty cruddy. I haven't used them > myself. No - the 002 preamps and converters are much better than the older Control 24 stuff. I've used them both. > > >>Granted you need a PC on top of the $1700, so there >>is additional money, but you're also not stuck with a specific amount of >>processing power like you would be in the Plugzilla. > > > True. > > >>;-) Crucify me! Please! ;-) > > > Not my intention at all! Just pointing out that plugzilla vs. the digi 02 > is really apples and oranges. I think your plan is completely reasonable. > No, I know. I was jsut joking too.