On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 19:05, M P Smoak wrote: > On Thursday 07 October 2004 06:09, Dave Griffiths wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > With the talk of text based studios (great site btw, Julien) I > > thought I'd mention http://www.toplap.org which is devoted to > > the practice of programming music and art live, in front of an > > audience. > > Good topic, Dave. One I'm very interested in as a player (sax, > flute, keyboard), teacher and sometimes programmer. The first > demo of computer generated sound that I saw was at the Museum > of Modern Art about 1970, I think. was this demo using livecoding techniques? do you have any more info on this - we're trying to document the history of livecoding here: http://www.toplap.org/?HistoricalPerformances and the earliest we have is 1985 at STEIM Amsterdam > I was out of music during > the 70's, but was very impressed by a solo alto sax player in > a club in Oakland about 1976; young woman who had made her on > backups onto cassette tapes. Good player, good taste and > simple presentation that worked for the player and the crowd. > > > > > Ok, so it's not strictly linux based, but the applications > > used include Alex Mclean's feedback.pl: > > http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2004/08/31/livecode.html lots of > > supercollider, using jitlib: > > http://swiki.hfbk-hamburg.de:8888/MusicTechnology/566 and some > > stuff I've written: http://www.pawfal.org/Software/fluxus/ > > which are all running on linux. > > > > The text based nature of the interfaces tend to lead to more > > flexibility rather than less. The idea is to project the code > > as part of the performance to allow the audience to see the > > relationship between the code and the music - and remove the > > "are they just checking email" syndrome :) ) > > Strongly agree on the flexibility of interactive text interfaces. > And on the idea of projecting the code as part of the performance > to expand what the audience sees or hears, with text to speach > conversion. text to speech is something we've yet to try - synching the words to the beat would be pretty fun (although possibly harder to understand than a projection) :) > In 1992, I saw a great presentation by Stanley Jordan on using > APL in music performance and teaching at the APL92 conference > at Stanford. It caused me to start looking into music on the pc > and now at last I have a very good linux machine with audio > (PlanetCCRMA) and apl (APLX) working. I just installed apl last > week so not sure yet how to interface apl with pccrma, but I bet > it ain't that hard. apl looks interesting - again, do you have any more details about how it's been used for audio programming? another audio livecoding system to check out that I really should have mentioned is ChucK: http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ cheers! dave