I'm sure you've tried it already, but just for the record: I've noticed with one of those sound cards that the slider (on alsamixer) labeled 'Capture' causes to feed the output back in. It should be record-disabled (I'm not sure, but IIRC just bringing the slider all the way down doesn't do the trick) while it is record-enabled by default(?). I think. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org