If anyone else wants to get together to get a ticket on the same flight that would be cool. Makes waiting in the airport less dull and we can share taxis at the far end. Its still (just) early enough to get cheap flights to Frankfurt. The flights I'm thinking of are: BA0908 LHR to FRA, leaving 12:30 Wed 28th Apr BA0911 FRA to LHR, leaving 18:45 Sun 2nd May but I havent decided yet, there are quite a few flights. total cost is UKP 78.50 inc taxes and stuff, the train from Frankfurt to Karlsruhe is frequent, fast, comfortable and cheap (EUR 30ish). The lowcost airlines do cheap flights to "Frankfurt", but its to an airport thats a long way from the city, and the times are very inconvienient. Additionally if anyone wants to share a taxi from Southampton to Heathrow that would be even better :) Otherwise I'l schlep up on the train I guess. - Steve