hi, As a fellow muller, I've looked into the Shuttle xpc Zen. It has an external powersupply, a la the apple cube, and is extremely quiet according to the people of www.silentpcreview.com. Right now it only comes in a pentium 4 flavor, but they may release an AMD version. It's biggest flaw is the lack of an AGP slot (it has builtin nvidia, and 2 pci slots, I believe). That wouldn't be any problem if you don't run any really graphics intensive games. -Rich glyn wrote: > hi all, > > i'm currently mulling over the idea of getting one of those really small > shuttle xpcs for use as a quasi-portable linux-based audio box/desktop > replacement, and was wondering if anybody had used them before and had > suggestions or encountered caveats/hardware problems/quality control > issues/etc. apparently the amd-based systems use an integrated realtek > audio chip that is supported under alsa, but i'd probably put a better > audio interface in the one available pci slot anyways. > thanks, > glyn > >