On Mon, 2004-06-28 at 02:46, Anahata wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 12:35:03AM +0300, Sampo Savolainen wrote: > > you could try to find a CD player > > with spdif output and, presuming you have spdif input on your computer, > > record the data digitally from a normal player. > > The possibility of doing this (I assume copy protected CDs can't prevent > it, if they can be played at all) is one more thing that makes a > mockery of the whole business of copy protection. What really makes a mockery of the copy protection racket is what the RIAA calls the "analog hole". If I can hear it, I can copy it. Find a CD player that can handle the chewed up CD, run the analog outs to your computer, record it. I seriously doubt that there is anyone around who can tell the difference between a digitally ripped copy and a digitally encoded analog copy. A digitally encoded analog copy is way better than any mp3/ogg file you're going to find anyway. As far as digital output from CD players is concerned, the RIAA wants to either make them illegal or cripple the CD in such a way that they don't work. The only effective way to prevent music copying is to prevent music listening. Don't put it past the RIAA to go that route, they're just stupid enough to try it ;-) Jan