On Mon, 2004-06-21 at 00:15, lee wrote: > Paul Winkler wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:13:08PM -0500, Jan Depner wrote: > > > >>On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 13:27, lee wrote: > >> > >>>derek holzer wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Russell Hanaghan wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Is there anything out there other than the regular Alsamixergui or Gnome > >>>>>alsa-mixer that has some flexibility here? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>Try envy24control. It's in alsa-tools. It's the only one that lets you > >>>>access all the controls of the soundcard. > >>> > >>>The one thing that threw me off (and I believe this qualifies as a bug > >>>or perhaps confusing feature) is the digital mixer for all the channels > >>>gives two faders per channel. So if you raise both faders on channel > >>>one, it will send the same signal to both speakers. If you raise both > >>>faders on channel two, it will do the same, effectively adding the two > >>>signals together giving an output level twice as loud as what's actually > >>>getting sent to the mixer. > >>> > >> > >>That's a feature. It just takes some getting used to. Normally I raise > >>left on one channel and right on another. This allows you to mix some > >>left into right and right into left or swap left and right. > > > > > > I agree that it's a feature, but IMHO the UI is less than ideal. > > I think I'd prefer a single slider and some kind of pan widget. > > > This feature makes the "l+r gang" button on each channel useless, since > the way I have always used analog mixers for stereo tracks is to gang > channel one and channel two, each paned hard left and right so I can > control stereo volume with one slider. As it is now I have to raise two > sliders for stereo tracks, which would work alright with a physical > mixing desk but I only have one mouse pointer. > No, not useless. It gangs left and right for that channel so that you can put more left than right in, gang the controls, and then raise and lower them together. I think there probably needs to be a way to gang different input channels in addition to this functionality. Sort of like the way we gang compressor controls in JAMin. Jan