On Friday 11 June 2004 18:39, Paul Winkler wrote: } ... errr, and cymbals. Drum machine cymbals are always bad. } Cymbals are just hard to represent via samples, they're } too darn complex. Why do they have to sound like cymbals? {Granted this is for a specific package... take it as a general question} Digital is supposed to be an avenue for progress no? {In other words... "7 zillion and one available sounds and you gotta' have a simulation of something some bronze age guy managed to come up with when he screwed up the kings dinner plate order?} -- If I had saxophones / Big baritone, cleanin' up the muddy breaks If I had Saxophones / I could get some recognition from that Mobile Alabama DJ {J.Buffet}