Thanks for the help. Apparently 'urpmi' is the real tool under 'rpmdrake' (the avoid-the-evil-command-line Mandrake GUI for package installation). Boy, wouldn't it be nice if we had a search engine that could take a description of what we want to do, and suggest a list of possibly interesting manual pages, html links, PDF documents, etc. I've sometimes spent days with Yahoo/Google scanning thousands of irrelavent pages to find the info I want. I've gotten a lot more useful info about linux in general on this mailing list by accident than I have searching. Unfortunately, I have limited time to deal with email lists. Maybe we need a search engine like Yahoo, which only finds linux-related documentation pages (I know I'm dreaming). e. j. branagan The MUSE - Nashville, TN