Mikhail Ramendik <mr@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > I understand these particular problems may get fixed. But Finale's very > concept, as a primarily note editing-and-typesetting tool with some sort > of WYSIWYG, is umnatched on Linux; for both NoteEdit and RoseGarden, > this sort of use is not the main idea of the author, and this leads to > all sorts of missing features. This is weird, but most people I know hate Finale's WYSIWYG solution (although they still use it). Typesetting a score for performance (3 instruments and a computer part in a somewhat graphic notation) and extracting parts for musicians was a major pain, I recall. Finale was only good for doing quick music theory assignments and typesetting examples in papers. A lot of tweaking and juggling with various levels of dialog boxes was necessary to get half-decent looking score. Someone mentioned some big publishing companies here (in this thread) but I doubt they actually use finale for final scores. Apparently Score is still widely used in the music publishing business. Sibelius is even worse. Quick and dirty lead-sheets are ok in Sib. The best piece of notation software I have seen was NoteHeads Igor Engraver. However, the development stopped a few years ago and at that point it was terribly slow and needed at least 256MB RAM! It was written mostly in Lisp and did decent typesetting (although Lilypond's default output beats it) and had 'intelligent' playback, which was quite nice. It played dynamics, articulations and such. If you want a wysiwyg score editor bug noteheads. But i wish you godspeed as they have been very unresponsive in the past 2 years or so, I wouldn't be surprised if they're out of business by now. I know some users moved to lilypond, too. > The success of TeX for formula editing came, I think, from the fact that > TeX somehow matches the way a scientist *thinks* about a formula. But > IMHO, neither Lilypond nor any other alphabetic editor can approach the > way a musician thinks about score! And that's why this won't work. I found text editing much quicker than wysiwyg. Aforementioned Igor had a great input tools that worked very well with keyboard only and it was the quickest entry of all WYSIWYG editors I've seen (if you ignore the garbage collection happening once in a while and sometimes for several minutes... bad design, I guess). With lilypond's text you can get quite fast to where you want to get. Different musicians think about score in different ways. Those who play from scores need in fact a good visual layout and such, but those who write the scores work in different ways. Of course, some need WYSIWYG but that's probably only because that's they have been used to be doing for years of computer score making. A lot of people do scetches on paper anyways, before entering it into the computer. Point & click is the worst way of entering & tweaking scores. -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org