On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:26 am, Jesse Chappell wrote: > It might make sense to use another app for playlist management, > which then controls alsaplayer (or other media player). This > is the idea behind 'madman', for instance, which has a rather > impressively powerful interface. I don't think it interfaces > to alsaplayer yet, though (just xmms). There are others in this category > of app, i believe. KDE 3.2 is out next week (hopefully) and it will come with Juk, I believe. I haven't used it yet but it seems to have a good reputation for managing media files intuitively. And as far as some frontend program using various backend players, just last night I tried mv'ing mpg123 out of the way and soft linked xmms to mpg123 so now my irate-client calls xmms instead of mpg123, which gives me a GUI player that I have more control over when using the irate-client. This simple change improved my user experience. --markc