On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:03 am, Edward Barrow wrote: > On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 11:16, Daniel James wrote: > > > But I for one don't have a problem with a share of the money paid > > > by punters on the door of the disco going to the people who made > > > the music, both the DJ and to musicians back up the "sample chain". I do have a problem with this if the means to manage these funds involves a bureacracy that has otherwise nothing to do with either the creation or the appreciation of the music. > > That's fine in principle, but in practice this requires either a high > > degree of automation, or a layer of bureauracy which will inevitably > > siphon off at least some of those resources. Ironically, being a > > member of the 'royalties police', supposedly defending the interests > > of musicians, is probably a more lucrative career than actually being > > the average musician. I'll bet it offers a regular salary, and you > > get to spend most of your working hours in bars... I agree with Daniel. If the overheads of managing this stream of income is too much then it's highly debatable whether it's worth even factoring into anyones expectations of income stream. > But not, usually, when they're jumping - mostly it involves going round > bars, shops and hairdressers and anyone else who plays music in public, > trying to find the manager/owner, and getting them to sign the form and > pay for a sticker in the window. A hidious endeavour to begin with. The idea of storm troopers threatening bars, shop and hairdressers to extract what will end up being a totally insignificant amount of money for the MAJORITY of smaller musos is something I personally want no part of. The major musos, for which this system works, can probably get along fine without the extra overhead-depleted income anyway. I've spent some time looking for a license that excludes expectation of royalty payments for public performances and so far none exist. If no one is aware of any such license then I propose "yet another license" to specifically allow royalty-free performance of material and ask anyone else interested in this to make contact with me offlist to craft such a license. --markc