--- Jan Depner <eviltwin69@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hey Ron, try to be a bit less reserved, don't hold > back, you'll get high > blood pressure :-D hehe; i am one of three of the band Three Dorks. I speak out of turn. I want commons licensed potatos and a chef (DJ) to prepare me cost-free meals. I am sick of eating snow soup and having a sexless life. ron > Jan > > > On Sat, 2004-01-24 at 13:54, R Parker wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Mark, the following is my pre-coffee knee jerk > > reaction to your proposals. I got a little pissed > off > > and irresponsible but feel my positions are worthy > of > > consideration. I can't apologize for my feelings. > > Reguardless, I don't want what I stated to be > directed > > at you...when the field is dry, water it. My > reactions > > always suck but for some reason I have no aversion > to > > looking the part of a fool. > > > > > Yeah but that's "old world" crud that helps > keeps > > > bookkeepers and > > > lawyers in business. Perhaps in the days of > > > expensive paper music > > > manuscript and vinyl this auditing procedure had > > > some vaildity but > > > these days where the penny per beat ratio is so > low > > > it's obnoxious > > > (to me) that these archaic payment restrictions > > > still exist at all. > > > > I pay much more for bandwidth than I ever did for > > sheet music and vinyl. > > > > > > But this music had another license, which > > > > explicitly wasn't intended to promote > "commons". > > > > > > Exactly, and I would like to think part of the > "new > > > world" game is > > > to spread the exposure of this musical commons, > not > > > to tie it up > > > and inhibit it with an artifical non-musical > > > bureaucracy of paper > > > work shufflers that have nothing to do with > either > > > the creation > > > or the presentation of said music. > > > > This would be a fine enough impetus for war if > > musicians aren't its greatest victim. They are! > > > > > These days, creating music is so ubiquitous that > > > it's more of a > > > priviledge for the artist to get their music > > > exposed, at all, > > > rather than a priviledge for the listener to > partake > > > of the artists > > > work, or at least it's becoming moreso (again, > in my > > > view). > > > > That doesn't feel much different than indentured > > servitude. I saw the first commercial album > produced > > with Ardour in a juke box a couple days ago. I > loved > > it! I might go back and take a picture. The bar is > a > > neighborhood dump that's been in business since > 1938. > > Anyway, while producing that album the artist and > I > > went dumpster diving and shoplifting food > together, > > several times. The artist is a U.S. illegal alien > whos > > teeth are turning yellow and falling out. He's > about > > 30 years old. Next time I see him, I'll tell him > his > > wrotten teeth are the price of priviledge. > > > > >That "obnoxous bureaucratic system" already > > > exists for those > > > who want direct payment for their works of > art... I > > > don't see how > > > these restrictions apply to music, or art in > > > general, in the commons. > > > > If we met drunk in a bar and you used the word > > obnoxous in the above context, I'd give you the > > beating of your life. Or, I'd force you to beat > me. > > > > > I would like to think the point of music in the > > > commons is that > > > there are no inhibitions or restrictions to > people > > > hearing it ! > > > > I see nothing but inhibitions and restrictions for > > people to hear commons licensed music because > artists > > can't afford to finance the ideal you describe. > > Discussing altnerative methods of payment isn't an > > option because I'm hungry and need to eat. If you > are > > not or haven't experienced sustained years of > poverty > > and hunger as a result of being an artist, I don't > > want you speaking for me. > > > > > --markc > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. > Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
