Hi Greg, On Monday 19 January 2004 3:30 pm, Greg Reddin wrote: > What about Agnula? ?How do you upgrade > individual packages? ?How do you back out the upgrade if there's a > problem? ?Do you manage a separate "test" environment to keep from > bringing down your DAW? I'm using Agnula on a double-booted system. I've got Woody/DeMuDi-1.0 on hda and Sarge/DeMuDi-1.1.0 on hdb I've set up chroots in both directions so I can access the one while booted into the other. It works for me. You'd probably want to track the Agnua/unstable packages - they do maintain ReHMuDi packages too, which I imagine you can install on top of Red Hat same as Debian. You may even be able to use apt, I don't know. I'm actually using synaptic as a package manager ATM and apart from a couple of niggles it works well. I can't imagine running a system which didn't have apt - It is super-cool IMHO and extremely well documented, such that I'm able to run insane mixed systems side by side with relative ease. I'd say it was easier to configure and run than, say kmail. I'm still a relative newbie, so experience may show me the pitfalls, but I haven't seen them yet. I guess backing out of upgrades is tricky to say the least, these tools weren't really designed to go backwards. Apt-pinning works for packages in most cases. I don't know if it's as up to date as you'd want - I'm currently running: Rosegarden: 0.9.1 muse: Linux Music Editor; Version 0.6.1 jackd 0.90.1 I expect newer packages will appear as soon as ... I've downloaded most of it over a dialup (ISOs will be available soon) admittedly this has involved a couple of all-night downloads - not recommended procedure I guess :-] I'm very happy with it. Agnula is buzzing right now and the support is excellent. HTH tim hall