Larry Troxler wrote: > On Saturday 17 January 2004 09:58, Robert Jonsson wrote: > >>Hi, >> >> >>>i'm opposed to web forums, for a number of reasons: >>> >>>* generally more trolling on forums [*] >>>* less thinking before posting >>>* far worse s/n than mailing lists because of the lack of a >>> subscription barrier >>>* mailing list archives are a valuable resource, forum archives >>> are a an inaccessible mess >> >>This is a questions of good indexing. Google is your friend. > > > Speaking of mailing list archives, what happened to the good old days where > you could just FTP a massive tarball of the last years messages and search > through it on your own machine, using you own methods? > > It seems that for most mailing lists now, the only way to get at the archives > is through a browser or search engine that is run on the server. Why is this? > The information still has to be stored on the server, regardless. the probable reason is that ftp downloads of full archives put quite a burden on the server, especially if someone has to pay per byte. consider how many thousands of online queries correspond to the bandwidth usage of just one full download. the webspace for the linux-audio-* archives is being donated by kai vehmanen, and my guess is his bandwidth too is limited. that said, if someone does want to conduct some very special research (such as indexing or statistical analyses of some kind that require full-text archive access), something can be worked out with kai - just drop him a note. as a sidenote, the LAU traffic totals at around 55 megs uncompressed so far (since its beginning in 2001), LAD traffic since 2002 is around 45 megs, so the total is probably way over 100m. regards, j?rn -- "I never use EQ, never, never, never. I previously used to use mic positioning but I've even given up on that too." - Jezar on http://www.audiomelody.com J?rn Nettingsmeier Kurf?rstenstr 49, 45138 Essen, Germany http://spunk.dnsalias.org (my server) http://www.linuxaudiodev.org (Linux Audio Developers)