>From Iain Duncan on Thursday, 2004-01-08 at 15:18:05 -0800: > > I'd include Csound in there too. It's tiny, and it gives them a taste > of something that is more hackerish. It is also a great intro ( I've > found ) for those coming to music from a math or engineering > background who are used to thinking in terms of functions and waves > but have never done any music. In the present context, I am avoiding hacker programs. Have you used cecilia, the front end to csound? Does it make the whole package more user-friendly? Conrad