> >What's a "goto drummer"? > > I think he might mean a Japanese taiko drummer, they play those huge > cylinder drums. Bang on! (those puns, those bloody puns) Goto is a famous drum troop based, if I am not mistaken, on Sado, an island off the west coast of Japan. Sado is known for its austere climate which is almost as harsh as the weather in Montreal. This is why it has over the centuries attracted both ascetics and enemies of the state (exiles to Sado rarely came back alive). As far as I remember Goto was originally connected with a Zen monastery, but today it no longer has a religious function. Many years ago when I was learning C programming I was told in no uncertain terms never to use goto. This was drummed into me. Robert -- bim. bimbim bakabak boom.