Last Wednesday 29 December 2004 17:38, Lee Revell was like: > On Wed, 2004-12-29 at 10:25 -0700, Hans Fugal wrote: > > > How about posting the output of "ps ax", and we can tell you which ones > > > you probably don't need. > > > > Or even better, "pstree". At least, I find this output easier to work > > with when pruning a system. > > Cool, I didn't know about that. "ps axf" is another good one. 'pstree' is new on me too, thanks. Just for comparison's sake here's mine: $ ps fax PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 1 ? S 0:00 init [5] 2 ? S 0:01 [keventd] 3 ? SN 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] 4 ? S 2:46 [kswapd] 5 ? S 0:00 [bdflush] 6 ? S 0:00 [kupdated] 106 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 220 ? S 0:00 [kcopyd] 260 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 261 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 262 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 263 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 264 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 265 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 266 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 268 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 269 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 270 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 271 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 272 ? S 0:00 [kjournald] 368 ? S 0:00 [khubd] 1008 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon-1 --system 1314 ? Ss 0:01 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon 1482 ? S 0:00 [kapmd] 474 ? S 0:02 /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2 13 2093 tty1 Ss 0:00 -bash 2113 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/X11/startx 2126 tty1 S+ 0:00 \_ xinit /home/tim/.xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc 2127 ? R 0:03 \_ /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp 2130 tty1 S 0:01 \_ openbox 2137 tty1 S 0:02 \_ fbpanel 2140 tty1 S 0:02 \_ gkrellm 2159 tty1 S 0:03 gnome-terminal 2162 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-pty-helper 2163 pts/0 Ss 0:00 \_ bash 2183 pts/0 R+ 0:00 | \_ ps fax 2164 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-terminal 2165 tty1 S 0:00 \_ gnome-terminal 2161 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/bonobo-activation/bonobo-activation-server --ac-activate --ior-output-fd=17 /etc/rc5.d $ ls K10sysklogd K20dictd K20inetd K20snort K89atd K99kdm S20irqbalance S20xdebconfigurator S99stop-bootlogd K11anacron K20exim4 K20lpd K20ssh K89cron S18portmap S20makedev S20xfs K11klogd K20fam K20mzscheme K20xprint K91apache S20alsa S20realtime S21aumix K14ppp K20gpm K20postgresql K21nfs-common K91apache2 S20cfengine2 S20rsync S99linuxlogo K20cupsys K20hddtemp K20samba K89anacron K99gdm S20dbus-1 S20timidity S99rmnologin ---- Obviously I can't print or do networking stuff in this runlevel and I do wonder whether I've gone too far in disabling the kernel logging daemons. Rosegarden4 likes it. :-) Any thoughts welcomed. tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk