On Monday 20 December 2004 12:05 am, Michal Seta wrote: > mchristoph.eckert@xxxxxxxxxxx (Christoph Eckert) writes: > > B flat is not exactly the same note as A sharp, BTW... > > depends in what key you are in :) > > I have been playing a guitar for over 20 years and I never heard of > Feiten tuning system, although all the names that poped out in the > linked article sound very familiar. But I'm probaly way behind > because I jumped from blues stright to classical guitar and then > stright to computer music... I guess I've got some gaps to fill. > > In any case, there is a touch of misinformation and/or > misinterpretation of history in that article that someone provided > earlier > (http://www.buzzfeiten.com/Articles/Guitar_Shop/guitar_shop.html). > First of all pythagoras did not get his math wrong. He was right on. > And he could not have miscalculated the fret distances because fretted > instruments were invented a couple centuries after his death, if not > later. In the occident at least. There are perhaps older instruments > in the oriental cultures but have nothing to do with Pythagoras. > Also, I fail to see how a 12TET system can sound perfectly in tune. I > mean, the whole idea of equal temperament is to make concessions in > intonation as a tradeoff for having all, or most, intervals sound the > same in all keys. > > As it's been pointed out, the 12TET tuning system is incompatible with > overtone series of a vibrating string so even the Feiten tuning must > be out of tune. Probably differently and perhaps the differences are > actually appealing to some players but still out of tune. > > I hope that some day the digital technology will bring us a just > intonation guitar that will retune itself depending on which key > you're playing in :) But by then, I will probably go back to acoustic Having frets that shift is an interesting engineering problem. One could have a hydraulic insert of some sort or possibly a servo controlled wedge system incorporated in the fingerboard. Tricking out the actual fret wire might get you enough tolerance not to have visible/tactilely nasty seams Somebody somewhere had to have tried conceptualizing it. > instruments (providing I'm still alive). For now, I have modified one > of my instruments to do just intonation and it's alot of fun. And I > don't play tonal music so modulations to different keys are of no > consequence to me :) > > cheers, > > ./MiS
