David Runge <dave@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Regarding your attempt of making this about some sort of free speech > issue: "anti-systemd", "anti-devuan", "anti-whatever" are all a > symptom of treating a piece of software (or a distribution) like a > religion. Actually, I'd very much like to treat systemd less like a religion and more like software. However, its documentation is so abysmally lousy and non-standard that to achieve anything, you have to ask some of its practitioners for a recipe. You won't find anything useful to that purpose in the man pages or other installable documentation sources. > This is not what this mailing list is about. It's about helping users > of free audio software with their setup, work flow, etc. and not about > your or anyone's personal issues. Please, stop using it as your > dumping ground. Mailing lists are not really for hand-holding every single user through stuff that should be properly documented in the first place. For software-specific mailing lists, when they are used for that purpose that has the side effect of the developers eventually getting tired and choosing to improve the documentation instead or making use of the program more simple. That won't be the case with systemd on this list because this list is not where the systemd developers live. There is not much sense in starting a rant every time nevertheless. But systemd has a lot of its religious-war starting potential exactly because it, like a religion, wants initiation. You cannot command its services without getting help by other practitioners. In contrast, the SysV Init system is more a set of conventions about where to write what scripts than actual software. You can make changes to it rather transparently and rather fast without knowledge exceeding what you'd need for using/running UNIX anyway. And its documented in man pages, so it does not similarly divide the world into its disciples and others. For maintaining small embedded systems where one person is mainly responsible for keeping the whole thing working, that's an advantage. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
