On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 19:57, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 09:55:05 -0600, Jan Depner <eviltwin69@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 2004-12-12 at 09:17, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 12:03:40 +0100, Esben Stien <executiv@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Frank Barknecht <fbar@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > > > > > > So basically they want to protect their investment in getting > > > > > knowledge of how to implement a powerful firewire interface from the > > > > > eyes of other hardware manufacturers. > > > > > > > > A society where you put money higher than cooperating with other > > > > people is not a good society, in my opinion. > > > > > > Socialism - it ain't pretty... > > > > Really. I was going to point out that that is exactly what Karl Marx > > (or was that Groucho) said. You can see how well that worked out. > > > > Jan > > > > Groucho was a genius. Not so sure about Karl. > > Of course, I should have added that he has a right to his opinion, but > so do I. I believe in patents, as long as they are true inventions and not software patents... > intellectual property, The question of authorship as a moral right has become redundant in US copyright law. In the open source world, it has to some extent regained its position. I believe in authorship as a #1 right. > and the right of > a corporation to deceptively market products to me in an attempt to > get my money. Agressive marketing does not always mean deceptive. > I do not believe companies owe me anything, whether I've > given them money or not If so, then yes. Typical customer-corporation relationship. Marek