Re: GxPlugins.lv2, Wayland and X (Was: Re: Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9)

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On 10/08/2018 11:16 PM, Dale Powell wrote:

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> *From:* Linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> on behalf of David W. Jones <gnome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* 09 October 2018 00:46
> *To:* linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: GxPlugins.lv2, Wayland and X (Was: Re:
> Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9)
>
>
>     On October 8, 2018 2:27:50 AM HST, Juha Siltala wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hmm, do they work on Ubuntu 18.04's Gnome3-based user interface
>     > > running on top of Wayland (without X)?
>     >
>     > AFAIK any X client will work in a Wayland session just fine, thanks to
>     > XWayland.
>     >
>     > JS
>
>     XFCE won't run on Ubuntu 18.04 unless you set Ubuntu to use X
>     instead of Wayland. And it doesn't run reliably even then.
>
>
> Xorg is the default, not Wayland, so you must have enabled Wayland to be
> using it at all (although it does come with it as shipped so you can do
> so at install I would assume.)
>
> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default
> <https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default>
>       
> Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS to use Xorg by default | Ubuntu blog
> <https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default>
> Bionic Beaver, the codename for the next Ubuntu LTS release, is due in
> April 2018 and will ship with both the traditional Xorg graphics stack
> as well as the newer Wayland based stack, but Xorg will be the default.
> blog.ubuntu.com

That's not what happened to me.

> But neither Xubuntu

There doesn't appear to be an XUbuntu release anymore.

Same place it's always been.



> nor Ubuntu Studio, the two releases based on XFCE,
> come with Wayland. Not sure why you would be using it on an XFCE system
> at all.... The way things currently stand not sure I'd use it on
> anything but a KDE/Plasma install.

I downloaded the 18.04.1 LTS, installed it over my existing 16.04 LTS
installation. It never prompted me about choosing between Wayland or X.

When I added XFCE4 to it after 18.04.1 was successfully installed, XFCE
either wouldn't start or it would freeze up. It still doesn't get along
with the Gnome3 privacy screen, either.

I found this post:

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-wayland-and-enable-xorg-display-server-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux

Where it states that the default Ubuntu 18.04 BB installation comes with
Wayland enabled, and you need to disable Wayland to use X instead.

I would have been more inclined to believe the official Ubuntu Blog post but if that wasn't your experience how can I argue. I've only installed the Studio and the Xubuntu versions of 18.04 which I'm pretty sure were Xorg...

And here's a post about XFCE transitioning to Wayland:

https://www.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/73gihm/are_there_any_plans_for_xfce_on_wayland/

Not encouraging.

That's from when 17.10 was coming out with Wayland, and from what I read was a bit of a failure, hence why they're back on Xorg...


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