Hi Paul, Before I say anything depressing and express my frustration, please take to heart how much I appreciate what you're doing. Ardour is an incredible accomplishment and I view it as an enourmous act of generosity. I know you're trying to release 1.0 and start the GKT2.0 port at the new year. I have had enough serious problems with Ardour that I don't see how that's possible. Maybe my perspective is very narrow and I can't see beyound the issues that I run into. It's just that I keep running into problems that are intolerable to most guys like me (pro engineers). I have to share a personal frustration with you that affects my attitude for trying to help with Ardour. Because I am not a developer nobody will ever know that I have made a contribution. I feel insignificant, overlooked or unappreciated. How can I say that when everytime an issue arises you're there to help. If a developer contributes a couple bug fixes, that person recieves recognition by being listed in the developers section of the About dialog. Yet their effort seems miniscule when compared to mine. The way I read this is if you're not a developer, then in the Ardour world you're nobody. I don't know if there's any other way to interpret this. From my perspective, it seems accurate. Ultimately the result is a loss of motivation. I'm glad Doug, aka Nostar, is around these days because Ardour needs someone to discover, report and request fixes. Maybe your reaction to this letter is "go blow yourself." Given what I imagine to be your own frustrations, I sure wouldn't blame you for responding that way. There's a couple more things I want to say to express my appreciation but I have to start my day. ron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com