On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 10:12:22 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >at some point of time jackd and pulseaudio needed _different_ settings >in order to work properly Hi :D then why did you questioned a while ago that some users don't want to install pulseaudio, or even recommend to remove it for troubleshooting purpose, given that some audio cards, e.g. the HDSPe AIO I own doesn't work properly with Linux at all. The HDSPe AIO of other Linux users might work without all of the issues I experience, but at least they must suffer from some issues I experience, too, e.g. Ardour can't be used with ALSA instead of jackd. So risking that additionally pulseaudio _could_ cause issues makes no sense. There is no purpose using pulseaudio for most DAW usage and at least in the past it nearly was impossible to grant disabling pulseaudio without failure. IOW your claim maintaining a Linux install without pulseaudio would be more time intensive, than using pulseaudio, or at least to test if it should work trouble-free nowadays, while it caused issues for years, makes no sense, too. There are just a few use case where pulseaudio might be useful for a DAW, while for most DAW usages it's completely needless and apart from some bloated DE's that require it for absolutely no valid reason as a hard dependency (an empty dummy package to fulfil such a pseudo-hard-dependency doesn't cause any issues), there is no good environment that requires pulseaudio as a hard dependency at all. There are even idiotic attempts to render dummy packages useless, but actually they fail :p, e.g. enforcing another useless hard dependency for a DAW that requires a release "=" of pulseaudio, for a rolling release model distro like Arch Linux, that anyway doesn't allow partial upgrades, so that the "=" is completely irrelevant. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Si pulseaudio-bluetooth | grep On Depends On : pulseaudio=11.1-1 bluez bluez-libs sbc IOW claiming that something is wrong with people who dislike pulseaudio is strange, seemingly something is wrong with those who are unable to stop trying to enforce pulseaudio to everybody, by even the most grotesque efforts. ;) Ralf _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user
