On 08/19/2017 01:16 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
This was adequately discussed on jack-devel over the last 14 years.
It took a very long time for qjackctl to stop exposing the options that
were not intended to be "exposed" to regular users. Finally this has
happened, which is great. In the meantime, a lot of people played around
with things that are now on the "Advanced" tab, and often got into
trouble (which is partly how we gradually came to understand that they
probably weren't meant to be exposed. Cadence did a much better job of
*not* including these options from the beginning, which is one reason
why people could often get JACK to "work" when starting it there.
And yes, the man page does not explain it either, just like the man page
for most other *nix software.
Just funnin' with ye, my attempts at a few witty comebacks
to liven things up, thanks for your patience as always ;-)
You're right, there's already an Advanced tab for this.
Cheers. And to list.
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Tim <termtech@xxxxxxxxxx
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On 08/18/2017 10:10 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
I am no longer involved in JACK development.
Sorry, I think I'm having trouble with my mail reader -
darn Thunderbird, cuts off lines sometimes.
I missed the second half of your reply - the part
which logically proceeds to tell us which options
should not be exposed.
Tim.
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 9:05 PM, Tim <termtech@xxxxxxxxxx
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On 08/17/2017 11:34 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
The fact that jackd has a --foobar option does not mean
that a
GUI front end for jackd should expose it. The
developers of JACK
were/are hackers/tinkerers and were egged on by other
hackers/tinkerers to make as many things possible as we
could.
This might be good for hackers/tinkerers but it doesn't
make it
good for most users.
Open your jack1 code. Add shortened words to that effect on
each experimental command-line option you want. Push. Done.
QJackctl team then then adds an "Experimental" tab, and moves
option items to it, that you marked so, or hides them
completely -
it's their decision.
Advanced tab = "Yeah, you might need these."
Experimental tab = "Hands off, fool!"
Problem solved. Everyone happy. No?
T.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Tim
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On 08/17/2017 01:59 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
When you've spent years dealing with people
screwing up
their
JACK installations/configurations by messing with
parameters
which were never really meant to be exposed to
users,
you will
definitely be "Advanced".
Ah, you want the "not nice" setting.
Tim.
Maybe there are other ways to get there.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Will Godfrey
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> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM,
Jaromír Mikeš
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> >
> >
> > What about my 2nd question?
> > In qjackctrl Settings -> Advanced
... there is a
"Priority"
option ...
> > It corresponds to -P cli option
> > For what is it good and how it
should be used?
> >
>
> It's under "Advanced". That means ...
if you
don't know
what it
does,
> don't use it, or adjust it.
I find that response surprising,
unhelpful and
quite wrong.
How can anyone discover whether they need
to use a
feature
if nobody
will tell
them what it does?
How does one become 'advanced'?
--
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