Re: checking passive input frequencies on non Hi-Z connection

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 On 05/18/2017 07:15 PM, Wayne DePrince Jr. wrote:

however, when i connect my electric guitar (Lace Sensors and Alumitone
pickups) and electric bass, both passive, to the TRS connections on inputs
1 & 2 of the H5 with gain only at 5 of 10, i get a good sound and strong
signal, seemingly the same as when they are connected to an interface (in
this case a Zoom U-44) that supports Hi-Z connections.

now while i do not yet have a good understanding of Lo vs. Hi-Z, i have
read various posts about it. they seem to indicate that the passive guitar
signal would lose some frequencies with this kind of connection and thus
this setup is undesirable.

A Di guitar sound is an effect if it is through a Di box or not. If you like the effect, good stuff. (use your ears is always good advice)

Personally, I have found that I like the sound of an electric guitar better if there is a speaker somewhere in the chain. Even for clean sound. Amp emulations can be quite good at rebuilding sound to sound like an amp, but then I add a speaker to the chain (even with a solid state amp) and there is some difference that I like the sound of.

In the same way, there will be a difference in sound from one preamp to any other. Either you like the sound or you don't.

However, electric guitars and electric guitar amps were designed together. There was no recording or Di, it was all live performance. The guitar does not have an impedance that is a number, it may have a DC resistance or 5k to to 15k or so, but it also has an inductance and capacitance (and the cable changes that too) and the matching amp has it's own input resistance, inductance and capacitance as well. The same guitar through any two amps will sound different because of this even if they have the same dc impedance. The inductance and capacitance will change the impedance with frequency. So any guitar/amp compination will already provide some filtering before the sound gets to the preamp.

The amp itself further changes the sound from input to output and of course the speaker/cabinet is tuned in the same way the body of an acoustic guitar is tuned. So the guitar/amp/speaker/cabinet combination providss a complete sound. The Di can't give the same sound though some modeling comes close.

This why I say, if you like the sound nothing else matters. Guitars and basses are different too, a Di is much more common for recording a bass than a guitar where high frequencies are in general not wanted, though as a bass player myself, I like the sound of at least some high end on a fretless as it accents some of the glides.

Piezo pickups are different again. I use them on both acoustic guitar and manolin. They sound just bad into my mixer or just about any Di box for that matter. 1 Meg is not enough. That is why so many of them have built in preamps.

I have used electric guitar plugged direct into a mixer and been happy with the result when looking for a "clean" sound. For anything with a bit of roughness or more, I prefer an amp.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net

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