Re: Motu 1248 - Full success

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On 05/11/2017 12:17 PM, Moshe Werner wrote:
Hi Folks,
...
So I got a pretty good deal on a Motu 1248 and went for it.

Here are my first impressions from half a day of testing.

 First and foremost, the interface just works! Out of the box. I plugged
it in configured Jack and got sound. Great... and non trivial for Linux.

After a bit of fiddling around with my Network settings I got the
control software to work, and I must say it's just amazing to have a
piece of equipment that I can fully use under Linux.
There is a full featured mixer in the DSP that's also a nice addition,
but the main thing for me was the routing matrix, which is pretty cool
to have.

Yes, this is very nice and gives access to all the configuration switches.

Latency - The latency in CC mode is better than my Firewire interface,
but still a bit worse than the rme. For now I succeded to run a medium
session (25 Channels with processing and fx) at 64 frames buffer size
with 3 buffers.
Certainly not bad. While playing guitar and singing I didn't feel any of
this annoying delay that you sometimes get when the latency is bad.

Make sure you are running threaded irq's and that the irq that handles the usb connection is running with "soundcard priority". That helps a lot (maybe you are already using rtirq and is doing that for you). And, if you can, make that the only device that is attached to that particular usb hub.

Sound quality - Pretty good. I have nothing to complain about... Though
I can't really hear the supposedly amazing ESS converters stand out from
the other professional DAC crowd...
To be honest in the Studio I'm working happily with the old Alesis
HD24xr AD/DC to make 1/0 out of my precious electrons...
The Preamps are pretty clean sounding from my firswt impression, but I
really didn't have enough time to toy with them.

The channel count is huge for my terms. 64 in and out... That should be
enough for me. Though I didn't get around to check if the AVB connection
does really work on Linux.

I have never had the time to try to make the whole AVB thing work. Trying OpenAVB a while back I managed to get the Motu to sync with the Linux box through AVB, but never went as far as getting discovery and streaming working (no time). You do need an ethernet interface that has AVB support (Intel i210, for example).

On the other hand I'm working on a big system that uses (for now) USB at 44.1/48 with a 64 channel count to interface with computers, and then the rest of the I/O going through AVB streams to and from additional boxes (I use either an A16 or 24ai as entry points because they support 8 i/o AVB streams). Pretty neat with all the routing matrices shuttling samples back and forth. You have to pay attention to how many AVB streams each card can handle (they are not necessarily symmetric).

To summarize I'm feeling that we are moving in the right direction here...
I hope other manufacturers will follow and make Interfaces and software
that work with Linux...

I found one issue when using Jack. When you use the interface for the first time, or when changing sampling rates, the interface takes up to 7 seconds to actually change sampling rate and get in sync with others or itself. During that time Jack will not start successfully ("cannot set hardware params"). The trick so far is to be patient, wait the required time, try again and things just work.

The A16 works, as well as the 24ai and 24ao.

I had problems with the newer generation of Motu cards that have a USB3 interface, so beware. Those work fine with USB2 connections but then the I/O is restricted to 24 channels input and output (in the older generation and with the latest firmware you can select whether you have more channels and less sampling rate options or visceversa - that is not available in these new cards). If you connect to an USB3 port the USB subsystem in the kernel hangs or gets really confused. Reboot time :-(

-- Fernando

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