On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 11:43 -0500, Paul Winkler wrote: > > If I was going to point out an innovative application that has no commercial > equivalent AFAIK, the pd/max/jmax family springs to mind. Of course those didn't "come from" linux, afaik pd and jmax started on other platforms quickly and were quickly ported to linux... and the original Max/Msp was/is still mac only. > but then, I find the issue of "what is innovative" only marginally interesting > and I'm not sure why I'm talking about it :-) I find it marginally interesting also. Only because it's one of those loudly hearalded "features" of FOSS. I often shouted it myself, till one day I sat down to make a list of the "innovations". Now as I said before, building on the efforts of others is GOOD, but unsupported claims of innovation/greatness/features come off as really annoying to non-linux people (in my experience) and this thread was focusing on proselytizing. Ok, I'm going to do some music... really I am. -ry -- Ryan Gallagher <ruinaudio@xxxxxxxxxxx>