On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 02:41:50 -0500
termtech <termtech@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Saturday, January 28, 2017 2:37:40 PM EST Len Ovens wrote:
> > On Sat, 28 Jan 2017, Will Godfrey wrote:
> > > My nice new BFC2000 was delivered yesterday, and I'm very pleased with it.
> > > It has an astonishing range of configuration possibilites, and unlike
> > > many units is reasonably quick and easy to program from the unit itself.
> >
> > Good to know.
> >
> > > The faders can be ordinary CCs, specifically pitch bend or any NRPN. The
> > > NRPNs can be full 14 bit data or 7 bit and can be absolute or
> > > incremental.
> > I knew the encoders could be incremental, but faders is a new one on me.
> >
> > > I can't confirm the resolution of either the pitch bend or NRPN modes, but
> > > it is greater than the accuracy of the sliders themselves - when used as
> > > an NRPN and steadily moving the slider up, a fractional movement can
> > > actually send a slightly lower value - which suggests it's reading
> > > discontinuites in the carbon track.
> >
> > That could very well be why Mackie limited their faders to 10 bits (last 4
> > bits zeroed).
>
> I am interested to know /how/ it sends out the 14 bits.
> Hi byte first? Or low byte? Or selectable?
> And can it optimize by not sending redundant hi or low bytes,
> or redundant NRPN numbers?
It seems to play safe and always send Nhigh, Nlow, Dhigh, Dlow although I
haven't investigated all the settings. I'm a bit lazy. Once I've got what I
want I tend to lose interest and stop investigating.
> Possibly the problem Will is seeing is a 'glitch' upon the discontinuity
> when the hi byte increments to a new value and the low byte
> 'rolls over' to a new value.
Nope, I was logging the values. I'm talking about extremely small values here.
Dlow 33 then 27 then 33 again comes to mind. Seeing odd number values caught my
attention.
> What are you feeding it into?
cout << "Control " << int(ctrl) << " Value " << int(val) << endl;
:¬)
> I question whether such a new professional product would have
> touchy carbon like that, where it goes 'backward' slightly in spots.
> (If it uses carbon at all.)
It's posible I was actually seeing mechanical backlash as I was making *very*
slow, tiny movements. Bear in mind that full range is 100mm.
100 / 16383 * (33-27) = 0.037mm
Now if you'll excuse me, my next task is to work out how to MIDI-learn NRPNs
(already got 14 bit pitch bend done) :p
--
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk
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