Last Wednesday 01 December 2004 22:19, Jan Depner was like: > > I agree this 'pro' term is nonsense. 'Professional' means you do it for a > > living, people wrongly attach some judgement of quality to that. Being an > > amateur means doing it for the love of it, which is a noble thing. > > I think that's all of us isn't it? > > ????????Not for a living, just for money, although I do tend to agree that > your definition makes more sense. ?College athletes in the US are > considered professional and barred from NCAA competition if they are paid > for competing. ?The judgment of quality is that the product is supposed to > be good enough for professional use - which may or may not be the case. Point taken. cheers tim hall http://glastonburymusic.org.uk